Dwarkesh Patel 与 Tyler Cowen：实验室内部担忧、中美竞赛与不连续增长指标

On The New York Times Opinion podcast Interesting Times, guest host Tyler Cowen interviews podcaster Dwarkesh Patel about private risk concerns among frontier-lab researchers, the difficulty of external calibration, and the trade-offs of slowing down amid US–China competition.

Patel also outlines revenue benchmarks that would shift his view toward discontinuous growth. This is an opinion conversation rather than a factual audit of laboratory claims.